The Clinton Die Hards
An example for you of some of the things I have been sent.
This one comes on the eve of Day One at the Convention.
One might think this is Republican sabotage, but this guy is a delegate and PUMA is for real.
I have been barraged by these people in recent weeks via telephone, email and hand-signed letters sent to my home address.
If these people are for real, my purpose this week will be to stop them.
Please realize, Hillary Clinton has the power to call these people off, and she has not done so as of yet.
Feel free to email this guy and tell him what you think about what he's doing.
Kids, in a history classroom, this is what we call a "primary source". In a courtroom, this is what we call "evidence".
(This guy's email to me is L O N G... but you should get a sense of its message and tone pretty quick.)
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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:49:06 -0400
From: rrl99999@gmail.com HIS EMAIL ADDRESS
To: rrlieberma@gmail.com HIS OTHER EMAIL ADDRESS
Subject: SUSPENDING, NOT ENDING (77)
ELECTABILITY WATCH (EW)
Rasmussen: Obama 46%, McCain 43%
Gallup: Obama 45%, McCain 45%
"There was no immediate boost to Obama's support coincident with the announcement of Joe Biden as his running mate."
All,
Someone who did not sign his name wrote that "You should be ashamed of yourself to go against the nominee of the Democratic party". I responded, "The Democratic Party has no nominee - neither received enough delegates to be the nominee. The task of the Democratic Party now is to select the Electable Democrat. There is no evidence that Obama is that candidate. I am ashamed of those who will not fight to get a Democrat in the White House, who are more interested in a spectacle in Mile High Stadium."
WIth Ohio, there are now 13 Binding Vote states where the elected/pledged delegates are bound to vote for HRC on the first ballot: Arizona, California, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Tennessee, Virginia. For additional information, please see # 5 below.
The DNC and Obama are clearly nervous that they do not have the votes to nominate Obama, and the DNC is trying every pressure tactic to avoid having a traditional floor roll call vote. Among other problems, this will also circumvent many state laws. On Monday we need you to call AGs in the 13 states to bring pressure on the DNC to respect the state laws and insist that the DNC hold an open floor roll call vote in the tradition of Democratic conventions for decades.
Otherwise we are left with symbolic mush.
We also hear that some state parties like OH are talking about saying "Pass" when they are called in the roll in hope that Obama will hit the magic 50% plus 1 before every other state gives their count and the convention chair will not need to go back and take their actual roll call on the record. How's that for transparency and accountability?
You have to ask, if Senator Obama, his campaign, and the DNC are so sure Senator Clinton has lost the nomination then why are they trying so hard to rig the process to win?
PUSH BACK. Do not let the DNC eliminate the traditional Roll Call at the convention. Do not let them commit such a flagrant abuse of process. Do not let them take away your voice and the voices of the 18 million Hillary voters!!!
Key 'action' steps for tomorrow are to contact State AGs, and also to call or fax your Democratic public officials to exercise their responsibility to select the electable candidate - she is HRC - and certainly to vote for her on the first ballot as a recognition of her historic candidacy and out of respect for her 18 million voters. GO GO GO!!!Ricki
1. DELEGATES: ATTENTION MUST BE PAID:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7a6_0fwpYUv=X7a6_0fwpYU
Geeklove writes, "I am sick and tired of Hillary "working her heart out" for the ungrateful Obama who has done nothing to reach out to Clinton or her supporters. While, Obama states that Hillary would be on anybody's vice presidential short list, he doesn't even give her the time of day or even pretend to do so. If Obama wants people to vote for him because of his judgment, I say, that it really was poor judgment not to even consider her and extremely poor judgment to mock her by sending the dissing text message at 3 a.m."
2. OREGON DELEGATES: Please remind Laura Calvo that she is bound to vote for Hillary.mailto:goddesspdx@yahoo.com
And, to clarify, MA DELEGATE Steve Driscoll who has been so rude to so many people, has been elected as a pledged delegate from MA CD 10 and is subject to the State Binding law to vote for Senator Clinton.
3. BRAVA, BRAVO, BRAVAE, BRAVI - The grassroots petition that soared When the Clinton and Obama campaigns announced last week that Senator Clinton's name would be placed into nomination, a group of Clinton delegates cheered for a moment and went right back to work. With Hillary Clinton's name "officially" on the ballot, the petition signatures were no longer technically needed. But this group of determined individuals pressed on.
"When we started this effort, it was the ONLY way for us to be able to vote in Denver to represent the people who elected us," said a Clinton delegate from Texas. "We're proud of what we did. We're going to see it to the end. Just like our candidate – we don't quit."
According to DNC rules, a floor nomination petition needs a minimum of 300 signatures from voting delegates to be submitted. In July, a small but determined group of Clinton delegates and volunteers started reaching out to fellow delegates in true grassroots fashion – one by one – to collect the signatures. This proved to be slow going since Democratic Party officials would not provide contact lists for delegates. The 300 Delegate Petition group was born.
After national and international mainstream media attention, petitions started pouring in. When they received the requisite number of petitions, they once again took a breather and went back to work. DNC rules state that no more than 600 petitions can be submitted. They're working on it.
"We've got well over 300 petitions now in hand," explained Sue Castner, a Clinton delegate from Portland, OR. "Since we never consulted with Senator Clinton's campaign, we don't know if 'the petition that wouldn't die' had anything to do with the two joint campaign announcements made last week. We will probably never know but it certainly made us feel good."
Signatories include a governor or two, county Democratic party chairs, members of the diplomatic corps, and even some brave Obama delegates. The names of those who signed the petition will remain a mystery unless Senator Clinton decides to file the petition, in which case, their names will be a part of recorded history.
As a meager reward for those delegates who saw the nomination process as a path to party unity and signed this historic document, a numbered commemorative pin will distinguish them from fellow delegates. Rest assured, the green pin, featuring the number 300 with a pen, will be THE most coveted pin in Denver.
4. MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama
PJ GLADNICK,
SEE ATTACHED FOR FULL FILING
Imagine if a prominent Mitt Romney supporter who was a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania as well as former Republican Party chair in Montgomery County in that state had filed a lawsuit against John McCain questioning his eligibility to become president. How many milliseconds after the filing of that lawsuit do you think it would take for that news to be prominently featured on the New York Times website as well as the many other MSM websites? Well, something very much like that has happened only instead of a Republican suing McCain it was Democrat Philip J. Berg, a Hillary Clinton supporter and former Deputy Attorney General as well as former Democrat Party chair for Montgomery county, who filed a lawsuit yesterday against Barack Obama to keep the DNC from nominating him because Berg claims he is ineligible to become president. So far there has been a collective yawn from the MSM to this news. The one exception was a very small blurb in the Philadelphia News Clout section:
Barack Obama's presidential campaign has faced so many false rumors about his family history that it has put his birth certificate on the Internet: he was born in Honolulu, nearly two years after Hawaii became a state, making Obama a U.S. citizen by birth.
But that hasn't stopped Montgomery County lawyer Philip J. Berg from challenging Obama's qualifications to be president.
Berg, a Hillary Clinton supporter, announced he's filing a federal lawsuit today, claiming that Obama lost his citizenship when his mother relocated the family to Indonesia when Barack was a boy.
Under the law, however, moving to a foreign country does not negate an American's citizenship.
Berg said that he's acting on his own, not as an agent for the Clinton campaign. Republicans were prepared to file a similar lawsuit after the Democratic convention, he said.
5. EXAMPLES OF WORDING IN THE LAWS OF BINDING VOTE STATES INDICATING AN INTENTION THAT THE DELEGATE WILL CARRY OUT THE BINDING OBLIGATION AT THE NOMINATING CONVENTION THROUGH THE CUSTOMARY ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE NOMINATING BALLOT
"Each person selected as a delegate shall sign a pledge that the person will continue to support at the national convention the candidate for President of the United States the person is selected as favoring until 2 convention nominating ballots have been taken." OR
"Each political party shall, on the first ballot at its national convention, cast this Commonwealth's vote for the candidates as determined by the primary or party caucus." KY
"Each delegate or alternate delegate to the national convention of his political party shall cast their vote on all ballots for the candidate who received this state's vote." OK
"Each delegate to the national convention shall use his best efforts at the convention for the party's presidential nominee candidate who received the greatest number of votes in the presidential preference election until the candidate is nominated for the office of president of the United States by the convention." AZ
"As a delegate to the national convention of the Democratic Party, I pledge myself to vote on the first ballot for the nomination of president by the Democratic Party as required by Section 1-8-60 NMSA 1978." NM
"Delegates and alternates shall be bound to vote on the first ballot at the national convention for the candidate receiving the most votes in the primary." VA
"The delegates to the national conventions shall be bound by the results of the preferential presidential primary for the first two (2) ballots and shall vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged." TN
In an Opinion now appended to his state's binding vote law, the words of the Attorney General of GA reach the heart of similar laws enacted in all of these states: "This section reflects the legitimate interest of the state in insuring orderliness in the electoral process, and it provides a means of presenting the political preferences of the people of this state to a political party." GA
6. Joe Biden: No True Friend of Working Men and Women JACKSON WILLIAMS
Last August, the Democrats held a presidential debate in Chicago. Seven Democrats participated, with former sportscaster Keith Olbermann moderating. It was sponsored by the AFL-CIO and took place before 15,000 union activists at Soldier Field. You'd think the candidates at a Democratic debate dealing with issues relevant to working men and women would be asked about the infamous bankruptcy bill signed two years earlier by President George W. Bush. Oddly, you'd be wrong.
This wasn't the first time Congress had passed this shameful act. Bill Clinton vetoed it twice in the 90's, so we know where he stands. The credit industry, ever relentless, kept coming back, confidant they had the number of elected officials necessary to do their bidding. They did, and Joe Biden wasalways one of them. The final version of the bill was cleverly titled the "Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005," but it wasn't aimed at preventing abuse or protecting consumers, and everyone knew it.
Arianna Huffington wrote on salon.com in March 2005 that this legislation was "so hostile to ordinary American families that it could only have come about in a place as corrupt, cynical and unmoored from reality as Washington, D.C." She concluded: "The bankruptcy bill is morally bankrupt. And so is any senator who votes for it." She defined the problem:
"So what does the bill do? It makes it harder for average people to file for bankruptcy protection; it makes it easier for landlords to evict a bankrupt tenant; it endangers child-support payments by giving a wider array of creditors a shot at post-bankruptcy income; it allows millionaires to shield an unlimited amount of equity in homes and asset-protection trusts; it makes it more difficult for small businesses to reorganize while opening new loopholes for the Enrons of the world; it allows creditors to provide misleading information; and it does nothing to rein in lending abuses...."
It turns out the average annual income of Americans who file bankruptcy is less than $30K, not the loose affiliation of millionaires and billionaires gigging the system that we all heard about when this bill was debated. Also, the vast majority of people who file bankruptcy don't do so to strategically hang on to their mansion on the hill, but because of medical bills, a job layoff, or both. Real people, real lives.
I've never filed bankruptcy, but like Bill Clinton I'm moved by those demographics. Not so our Joe. Of all the presidential contenders lined up on the stage in Chicago, he was the only one who had voted for the bill. Not senators Dodd, Clinton and Obama (Edwards was no longer in the senate in '05), and not House member Dennis Kucinich. Only Joe Biden. And he didn't just vote for it, he helped carry the water on it. Some Democrats tried to soften the bill with a series of amendments; for example, exempting military personnel at war in Iraq. Biden joined the majority of his colleagues -- all the Republicans and too many Democrats -- in knocking down every possible change that was offered.
For the record, Biden's home state famously holds the incorporation papers of large credit card and financial services companies. He obviously knows how his bread is buttered in Delaware, which means a "profile in courage" by 'ol Joe on the bankruptcy bill was out of the question.
Sure, Biden has a certain rogue charisma combined with what he's developed over the years as serious experience on the senate foreign relations committee. He's no idiot. But if part of the calculation in picking him is that he'll help sell economic populism in the heartland, from Perkiomen to Peoria, that's a cynical joke whether it succeeds or not. Anyone who cares about progressive politics, or the salt of the earth, knows that the bankruptcy bill is a disaster for average folks. Joe Biden is a big reason why this is so. He supported it and voted for it, many times over many years.
That speaks volumes about how he views the rest of the country.
7. CLARIFYING MESSAGE FROM PUMA:
We are still fighting to make Hillary Clinton the nominee at Convention, and -- ultimately -- the next president. Should that not happen, we are not officially endorsing John McCain. You are encouraged to consider all the various non-Obama options come November... McCain, 3rd Party, write-in, and/or abstaining.
AND FINALLY,
WORTH WATCHING and CONSIDERING: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY&feature=email
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2. "Superman" Using his favorite superheroes in an analogy, Dan makes the argument as to why no Republican should win in November.
3. "Old Argument Odd Package" Dan breaks down John McCain's acceptance speech.
4. “Russian Chess Masters" Dan offers a unique theory as to why Russia may have invaded Georgia.
5. “Can Rock and Roll Save the World? Let's see...” This one isn’t a rant. It’s a plan.
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As a general rule, if anyone ever uses a youtube link in a political argument, that's when you know you should start ignoring them.
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